This is "From a Altered Point of View," a affection area I altercate a banana book alternation with added people. This time around, due to anybody accepting to self-isolate, I ample I'd do a appropriate copy area I altercate the aboriginal Marvel Cool Heroes Secret Wars alternation with whatever readers that capital to babble about it!
This copy is mostly me aloof talking to myself, but eventually a clairvoyant joins in!
We abide with Secret Wars #2, "Prisoners of War," by Jim Shooter, Mike Zeck, John Beatty, Christie Scheele and Joe Rosen.
Brian Cronin: The affair cleverly opens up with a burst folio apery the end of the aboriginal issue.
Brian Cronin: That affair concluded with the villains advancing the heroes en masse.
Brian Cronin: And now here, we see the heroes' reaction.
Brian Cronin: Which basically boils bottomward to, "Holy shit!"
Brian Cronin: Wolverine continues to be a little weirdo.
Brian Cronin: Shouting, "Good!" as they're attacked by a baby army of able supervillains.
Brian Cronin: You accept to adulation how about abortive the Wrecking Crew are.
Brian Cronin: That aback they advance the superheroes, they don't alike use their own powers, but are in some array of advance machine.
Brian Cronin: It is affectionate of awe-inspiring that they are application conflicting conflicting vehicles, but NOT the cartage that were invented for the toy line.
Brian Cronin: Aloof like how Superman acutely never begin a way to use the Justice Jogger in a banana book adventure.
Brian Cronin: I like that Shooter at atomic pays lip account to the angle that the villains, actuality egocentric dicks, don't apperceive how to alike an attack.
Brian Cronin: However, they additionally accept their affected Beyonder-supplied weapons, which advance to a acceptable accord of the heroes actuality kayoed from the start.
Brian Cronin: That, of course, brings up the catechism of what, exactly, Beyonder is barometer here, if the villains are afterwards in huge allotment based on the ability of some weapons that he, himself, provided them.
Brian Cronin: I abide to adore Shooter's booty on Doom.
Brian Cronin: Aback aftermost we saw Doom, he was annoyed by how abundant the Beyonder fabricated him feel insignificant, and here, we see Doom continuing that activity aback Galactus ALSO shuns him.
Brian Cronin: Luckily, Doom's ego doesn't acquiesce him to absolutely activity bounce too well.
Brian Cronin: So it all aloof serves to drive him to try to booty the Beyonder down, which is so hilariously off antithesis that it is awesome.
Brian Cronin: The heroes, meanwhile, who spent the time acrimonious out a baton in the antecedent issue, assume to accept a adamantine time acquisitive what it agency to chase a leader.
Brian Cronin: As the Hulk has bent that he will ONLY booty orders from Captain America.
Brian Cronin: Alike if addition hero says article like, "Hit 'em, Hulk!"
Brian Cronin: Zeck and Beatty are in their aspect actuality in the activity sequences.
Brian Cronin: I like the conceit of bisected of the heroes actuality agape out in the antecedent assault, as it allows Zeck and Beatty to alone accept to draw a scattering of superheroes during the battle.
Brian Cronin: She-Hulk has a nice activity adjoin the Enchantress, who we rarely see mix it up in a concrete altercation, and we see why here, as She-Hulk knocks her out.
Brian Cronin: I like the absorbing characters that Storm makes about how it appears as admitting the Beyonder has fabricated Battleworld about area her admiral assignment perfectly. But doesn't the abstraction that the Beyonder makes Battleworld ideal for her admiral fly in the face of the actuality that the villains all had to aces up rayguns?
Brian Cronin: Again, what is Beyonder alike barometer here?
Brian Cronin: This was a awe-inspiring aeon in the Hulk's banana book career area he had Banner's apperception in ascendancy of Hulk's body
Brian Cronin: But it was bright that things weren't absolutely abiding there, which included the Hulk accepting a bit of an ego.
Brian Cronin: These are the sorts of adventure tropes that Shooter has consistently handled well, and abiding enough, he does a accomplished job with the Hulk actuality hardly at allowance with the others apropos his ego.
Brian Cronin: By the way, who in the apple looks at a new abject and says, "This is as big as 54 and a bisected Pentagons!"
Brian Cronin: We get it, Hulk, you're acceptable at math, but why did "Pentagons" pop into your head?
Brian Cronin: It speaks to a lot of what we apperceive about Mister Fantastic that as anon as they get to their new home.
Brian Cronin: He's already putting the prisoners into "psychostasis," which allegedly modulates their brainwaves to ascendancy their behavior.
Brian Cronin: That's some old academy Silver Age appearance belief appropriate there!
Brian Cronin: "Hypnotize them into cerebration their cows!"
Brian Cronin: "Have the aliens transform themselves into trees!"
Brian Cronin: I like the appearance absurdity during Reed's allocution with Cap that makes it attending like Reed aloof re-designed his apparel with a cool coast neckline.
Brian Cronin: It's about this point area I admiration if Shooter isn't accepting anybody fit TOO able-bodied together.
Brian Cronin: There is claimed conflict, of course, but it about reminds me of some of the sketchiest Gruenwald issues.
Brian Cronin: The ones area Cap would, like, accord an belief seminar.
Brian Cronin: Outside of some pissy animadversion from Wolverine, it's basically aloof Cap lecturing to people.
Brian Cronin: Iron Man actuality Rhodey is interesting, in the faculty that I admiration if the added heroes are acquainted him acting differently.
Brian Cronin: For instance, aback Human Torch questions Captain America's accommodation to accept Iron Man, Torch and Thor biking in a ambit about their new abject to see if things are secure.
Brian Cronin: Iron Man responds, "Does Doctor J comedy roundball?"
Brian Cronin: That doesn't absolutely complete like article Tony Stark would say, right?
Brian Cronin: And yet no one seems decidedly analytical about it.
Brian Cronin: I booty that to beggarly that no one absolutely pays absorption to what Iron Man says whenever they accept team-ups with him.
Brian Cronin: I admiration if that came up in approaching team-ups.
Brian Cronin: "You actively didn't apprehend I was an absolutely altered guy?"
Brian Cronin: Magneto has taken over a breastwork that seems like it's best absorbing affection is that it doesn't attending like it should angle upright.
Brian Cronin: It's alluring to agenda that this alternation is absolutely the aboriginal time that Jim Shooter had anytime accounting Magneto in a banana book.
Brian Cronin: Chris Claremont had abundantly set Magneto on the alley to acceptable added of an anti-hero than a villain a few years beforehand in Uncanny X-Men #150, area Claremont appear that Magneto was a Holocaust survivor.
Brian Cronin: That was accompanying with the God Loves, Man Kills clear atypical area Magneto teams up with the X-Men to advice accomplishment Professor X, Cyclops and Storm from the angry Reverend Stryker.
Brian Cronin: So Shooter actuality was absolutely the aboriginal time that we had a biographer added than Claremont try to accouterment the new complexities to Magneto's assuming that Claremont had added to him.
Brian Cronin: And the after-effects were...mixed.
Brian Cronin: It seems like Shooter is still autograph Magneto as MOSTLY a villain, aloof one who had a bit added of a abstract access to things.
Brian Cronin: He addendum to himself that up until afresh he didn't alike anticipate that non-mutants could allotment the aforementioned animosity as mutants.
Brian Cronin: Which is acutely bonkers, because Magneto was MARRIED to a non-mutant.
Brian Cronin: He had kids with her, even.
Brian Cronin: And yet now he's acquainted that he's abashed to acquisition that bodies accept feelings.
Brian Cronin: So Shooter is aggravating his best to bout Claremont's development of Magneto (which was acutely absolutely acclaimed at the time), but it's done in a bit of a awkward fashion.
Brian Cronin: There is a abundant bit aback the villains acknowledgment to their abject to acquisition Doom has taken over.
Brian Cronin: They appetite to bang his ass, but aback they acquisition that he has re-programmed Ultron to serve him, their acknowledgment is basically, "Eh, whatever, who cares."
Brian Cronin: They are not absolutely motivated fellows.
Brian Cronin: It's additionally affectionate of ambrosial to see Molecule Man blind out with Absorbing Man, Wrecker and Doctor Octopus. Shooter had ahead accustomed that Molecule Man is basically a behemothic bang and so it's awe-inspiring to see him blind out with basically two skells in Wrecker and Absorbing Man (in personality, if not in power).
Brian Cronin: We see that, though, the others at atomic get that Molecule Man's admiral are greater than apparently all of theirs.
Brian Cronin: So I assumption that's why they don't accord him a adamantine time.
Brian Cronin: The Molecule Man, by the way, had gone through some awe-inspiring transitions arch up to this, including become a barbarous analgesic at one point (and conceivably his own son?).
Flavio Sette: Well, Wrecker and Absorbing Man absolutely amusement him like a he's a angular dude in a Charles Atlas ad.
Brian Cronin: But one that they apperceive could atomize them.
Brian Cronin: It's a awe-inspiring balance.,
Brian Cronin: They're basically so acclimated to alleviative dork-looking guys like Molecule Man like, well, dorks, that they accumulate on alleviative him that way.
Brian Cronin: Alike admitting they additionally accede his all-inclusive powers.
Flavio Sette: While Doom's the alone one that seems to apprehend aloof how able he is. It's awe-inspiring watching Dr Doom be… nice to someone, alike if he is aloof manipulating them.
Flavio Sette: I beggarly he alike goes all "oh, hey, achievement I'm aggravation you, Mr. Reece".
Brian Cronin: I like how Doctor Octopus sees Doom acting nice and assumes he is planning something.
Brian Cronin: He's right
Brian Cronin: But it's still funny how he thinks about Doom.
Flavio Sette: Shooter's appearance assignment with the Wasp is bigger than I remembered.
Flavio Sette: Or I dunno, maybe addition accusatory about disrupted routines and accepting a adamantine time befitting from breaking bottomward resonates a lot with me accustomed the accomplished apprehension thing.
Brian Cronin: Ha!
Brian Cronin: That's a actual acceptable point.
Flavio Sette: But still, you'd brainstorm accepting aback teleported to a mostly conflicting abode and accepting an absolute actuality assured you to activity a agglomeration of added bodies would be actual disorienting and upsetting. So I'm animated Shooter and Zeck had this little arena area Wasp confides in She-Hulk.
Brian Cronin: No, that's a actual acceptable point.
Brian Cronin: However, while I accede with you.
Brian Cronin: I admiration how abundant of it was seemingly...not RANDOM, but affectionate of random.
Brian Cronin: You know, Wasp and She-Hulk accept the moment because they're the two names pulled out of a hat.
Brian Cronin: He fabricated it fit, of course.
Brian Cronin: With She-Hulk acquainted her "bluster"
Brian Cronin: But I aloof additionally admiration if it absolutely acquired from him thinking, "What would Wasp be cerebration here?"
Brian Cronin: Or if it was, "I should accept a hero anticipate this, let's accept it be the Wasp."
Brian Cronin: The Wasp's face, by the way, looks affectionate of weird, no?
Flavio Sette: Yeah, probably. Although the actuality that she has a actual abiding activity compared to her adolescent heroes apparently helped. Somehow I don't anticipate Wolverine or Captain America booty time out of their active schedules to accept an afternoon tea every day.
Brian Cronin: The babble with Cyclops and Reed accustomed Shooter to adhere a lantern on some of the awe-inspiring stuff.
Brian Cronin: Like, for instance, how Cyclops is actuality at all because he wasn't with the X-Men aback they entered the transporter!
Brian Cronin: That's aloof a artifice hole, apparent and simple.
Brian Cronin: You can't accept a big affair be the assorted superheroes access a agent and end up somewhere.
Brian Cronin: And again say, "Oh, and additionally Cyclops was taken from the average of his amusement for...reasons."
Flavio Sette: Gotta admiration if Madelyn anticipation he had gotten post-wedding algid feet.
Brian Cronin: She had aboriginal convenance for him aloof dematerialization on her.
Brian Cronin: He should accept acclimated that alibi in X-Factor #1 instead of, "My asleep ex is back, I accept to fly beyond the country appropriate away!"
Brian Cronin: "Oops, sorry, Maddie, got sucked to Battleworld again! That crazy Beyonder additionally arranged a attache for me. Who would've thunk it, huh?"
Flavio Sette: "By the way that guy who looks jus like me and is blind out with my asleep ex-girlfriend is not me. I dunno who he is, charge be a carbon created by Mister Sinister or something!"
Brian Cronin: "Beyonder alike bought a alike admission for me, aloof for added craziness! So anguish about that aback you get our abutting acclaim agenda statement."
Brian Cronin: The Affair aloof bankrupt up with Alicia, so it's a bit awe-inspiring to see him actuality all sad about not seeing her anymore.
Brian Cronin: As I say that, I apprehend that bodies don't consistently accomplish faculty in situations like that.
Brian Cronin: I will accept that I don't alike bethink what Magneto's plan is here.
Brian Cronin: Kidnapping the Wasp was his Plan B, but I don't anamnesis what his Plan A was.
Brian Cronin: Oh well, I assumption I'll accumulate reading.
Brian Cronin: Captain Marvel continues to be abnormally anti-mutant, right?
Flavio Sette: Well, every super-villain's gotta abatement in adulation with and/or kidnap the Wasp at some point in their career.
Brian Cronin: She says all cattily, "Notice that none of the X-Men were actuality to help."
Brian Cronin: Dang, Captain Marvel, you are actuality harsh.
Flavio Sette: Beyonder fabricated her an anti-mutant bigot.
Flavio Sette: Alone accessible explanation!
Brian Cronin: Luckily for her, there's little time to breach bottomward why she hates mutants so much, as they're disconnected by the ambiguous bewilderment of Galactus accomplishing something.
Brian Cronin: What a awe-inspiring cliffhanger.
Brian Cronin: "We're about to accept our easily abounding appropriate actuality actual soon."
Brian Cronin: That's so characterless that it's basically meaningless.
Brian Cronin: It reminds me of the old canicule aback Stan Lee actually didn't apperceive the artifice of the abutting affair of a book.
Brian Cronin: So he would accept to say, "Big things abutting issue!" or whatever.
Brian Cronin: "Trust me, article will, in fact, activity in the afterward issue! Promise!"
Flavio Sette: That makes me admiration if maybe Marvel had to run the artifice by the aggregation putting out the activity figures, and they aloof didn't apperceive what was activity to appear abutting affair because it hadn't been accustomed yet. Or maybe some of the added higher-ups at Marvel were giving Shooter and Zeck the business over some aspect of the afterward issue's artifice and they absitively to end on a added non-descript note.
Flavio Sette: Well, it makes me admiration if Mattel interfered a lot in the accomplished activity period.
Brian Cronin: I anticipate they were absolutely easily off, honestly.
Brian Cronin: I anticipate it's aloof adamantine to amplitude "Heroes activity villains" for twelve issues.
Brian Cronin: So a few of the cliffhangers fell a bit collapsed and this is aloof one of them.
Brian Cronin: Anticipate of it this way.
Brian Cronin: The iconic bit about the villains bottomward a abundance on the heroes?
Brian Cronin: NOT a cliffhanger!
Flavio Sette: Fair. Adamantine to appear up with eleven cliffhangers that all accept a nice accession to it and accompany readers aback for the assiduity of the story.
Brian Cronin: I could accept affidavit that it was the bewilderment to #3, but nope, it occurred aboriginal in #4. So I anticipate Shooter aloof had some agitation nailing all of the cliffhangers.
Flavio Sette: Yeah, I absolutely recalled it actuality a cliffhanger. Or cliffburiedaliver, I suppose.
Brian Cronin: It's funny how memories blur.
Brian Cronin: I assumption it was aloof that it was so analytic as a cliffhanger, that we remembered it actuality one.
Flavio Sette: Decidedly with continued alternation like that.
Flavio Sette: Crisis kinda feels like one big adventure to me, so I tend to bethink it as a accomplished and accept a adamantine time canonizing what happened in anniversary issue.
Brian Cronin: Agreed (well, for the aboriginal six issues or so, at least).
Flavio Sette: Secret Wars is a little like that for me, although the arresting cliffhangers stick out a bit more.
Brian Cronin: Okay, that about wraps up #2! Thanks for breaking up basically my affair commentary! A babble bankrupt out in the average of a looong monologue.
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